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Hughes<\/a> of the <a href=\"http:\/\/cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca\/portal\/page\/portal\/fc_cf_en\/Index\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Federal Court of Canada<\/a> as he shared his experiences with us in a lecture entitled \"Advocacy Skills and IP: Observations from the Bench\".<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><em>Please note: Justice Hughes' lecture was recorded and this article will be updated to provide a link to that recording once it is made available online.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.iposgoode.ca\/director\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Professor Giuseppina D'Agostino<\/a>, founder and Director of IP Osgoode provided the introduction.\u00a0 She highlighted Justice Hughes' notable influence on intellectual property law and policy both before and after his appointment to the bench.\u00a0 To conclude her introduction, Professor D'Agostino read an excerpt from the chapter that Justice Hughes contributed to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hartpublishingusa.com\/books\/details.asp?isbn=9781841139708\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Common Law of Intellectual Property: Essays in Honour of Professor David Vaver<\/a>: \u201cAsking how litigation begins is rather like asking how persons fall in love.\u00a0 The answer is that there are all sorts of ways, good, bad and indifferent\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>On that note, Justice Hughes proceeded to paint a colourful portrait of the process a judge goes through in arriving at a judgment from soup to nuts: everything from organizing a case pre-trial to sitting down in a quiet office to think and finally write the reasons for judgment.<\/p>\n<p>The process begins in pre-trial, months before a case is to be heard.\u00a0 At this stage a judge is responsible for organizing the case, identifying and reducing the number of contentious issues, and forging agreements on the facts wherever possible.<\/p>\n<p>The organizational responsibilities of the judge continue with the trial.\u00a0 Evidence, exhibits, issues, and witnesses all need organization.\u00a0 Especially important is dealing with expert witnesses.\u00a0 Justice Hughes\u00a0is a pioneer in this area, using a practice that is known as \"hot tubbing\", which involves sitting opposing experts in the witness box together to encourage them to arrive on agreed opinions.\u00a0 The judge must also hear the lawyers' oral arguments and read their associated facta.\u00a0 Justice Hughes advised that an effective written submission should be no more than thirty pages.<\/p>\n<p>Once a trial has concluded, the judge's real work begins: reducing the case to reasons for judgment and working to distill those reasons into a written document.\u00a0 Essential to this is process is, as Justice Hughes puts it, considering the \"ask\": the remedies that are being sought by the parties.\u00a0 To get to the \"ask\", one must first try to get all of the facts right by considering the evidence according to the appropriate burden where there is a dispute.\u00a0 Most importantly the legal issues in the case must be carefully sorted out, and the applicable law must be clarified.\u00a0 Finally, the law is applied and the remedies considered.\u00a0 Justice Hughes declared that he prefers creative remedies that do the \"least harm\u201d while achieving an appropriate result.<\/p>\n<p>Justice Hughes then led us through a typical case for each of patent, trade-mark, and copyright.\u00a0 While going over the most common issues in each type of case, he placed special emphasis on the various legal standard personas that a judge must put himself in the position of to arrive at a conclusion.\u00a0 When assessing a patent, the perspective is that of a person \"skilled in the art\"; for trade-marks, it is the \"average consumer somewhat in a hurry\"; for copyright, it is the somewhat more nebulous \"beholder\" of a work.<\/p>\n<p>Having gone through the process of hearing a case, a judge then sits down in a quiet office to think about the case.\u00a0 Justice Hughes intimated that a decision is written with the conclusion in mind and intended for several audiences: consumers, the parties, their lawyers, the public, and the appeals courts.<\/p>\n<p>As promised, some tips for both new and experienced advocates were then offered based on Justice Hughes' thirty-seven years of experience as a lawyer and seven years on the bench. At the top of the list was to \u201ckeep it as simple as possible, but no more simple than possible\u201d. \u00a0Justice Hughes advised that presenting your three best issues while being polite, pleasant, and \u201cfolksy\u201d rather than mechanical, is more persuasive and likely to convince the judge to grant your \"ask\". \u00a0He also explained that knowing your case and organizing it logically is essential, as is \u201cnot sweating the small stuff\u201d, which allows for an agreement in principle on as much as possible and helps narrow a case to its essential issue. Justice Hughes, tongue-in-cheek yet practical, also reminded us of \u00a0\u201cRule 13\u201d: \"don't piss off the judge\".\u00a0 Last but not least, he wisely advised us to be truthful to the client and respectful to both the opponent and the judge.<\/p>\n<p>The lecture was followed by a lively question and answer period in which questions ranged from queries about the above-mentioned \u201chot tubbing\u201d of experts to the challenges faced by teachers and students in fine arts programs when it comes to protecting their intellectual property rights. Finally, Justice Hughes offered some advice to law students and recent graduates looking for work in a crowded market: be enthusiastic\u00a0to set yourself apart.<\/p>\n<p><em>Philip Poles is a graduate of Osgoode Hall Law School.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the afternoon of November 29th 2012 IP Osgoode was pleased to host Justice Roger T. 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