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Boros and Tung, each in their third and second years of studies, joined the project to refine the app leading up to and after its launch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The encyclopedic resource enables users to access details about criminal code offences and potential defence strategies simply by asking the chatbot questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe whole thing has been built with a lot of effort and it\u2019s very intuitive,\u201d said Boros.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI feel like it\u2019s given me a much stronger idea of the core concepts of criminal law and the finer points,\u201d he added. \u201cThe other benefit for me going forward is it\u2019s inspired me to take more technology focused courses next year.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of them will be Osgoode\u2019s Engineering the Law course, taught by adjunct faculty member <strong>Al Hounsell<\/strong>, who serves as the Toronto-based director of strategic innovation and legal design for the multi-national law firm Norton Rose Fulbright LLP.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Among other things, the Osgoode course introduces students to how client needs have pushed the boundaries of legal service delivery to include elements of data, computer technology and artificial intelligence (AI), according to the course description. It also gives students the practical skills to break down contracts and legislation into decision trees, to develop markups and workflows for contract development and negotiations, to attain basic experience with common legal technology applications, and to apply design thinking methodology to legal problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"256\" src=\"https:\/\/yfile.news.yorku.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LawNewbie_1-2048x512-1-1024x256.png\" alt=\"Ryan Boros and Elias Tung sit in front of Osgoode Hall Law School Ignat Kaneff Building sign.\" class=\"wp-image-337776\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.yorku.ca\/yfile\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/889\/2023\/07\/LawNewbie_1-2048x512-1-1024x256.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.yorku.ca\/yfile\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/889\/2023\/07\/LawNewbie_1-2048x512-1-400x100.png 400w, https:\/\/www.yorku.ca\/yfile\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/889\/2023\/07\/LawNewbie_1-2048x512-1-1536x384.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.yorku.ca\/yfile\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/889\/2023\/07\/LawNewbie_1-2048x512-1.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ryan Boros and Elias Tung<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Tung, who is leaning towards a career in family law, said his work with Law Newbie has helped spark an interest in working at the intersection of family law and criminal law.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re just trying to make the information as accessible as possible,\u201d he said of the project. \u201cThere\u2019s definitely a need for criminal law resources like this because a lot of people don\u2019t understand the criminal code \u2013 and it\u2019s also important to understand your rights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI feel very fortunate,\u201d he added, \u201cbecause not a lot of people have the opportunity to do this kind of work.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Melo said the research and writing that she did for Law Newbie last summer gave her a more solid grounding in criminal law.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI really liked the research component of it and it was good to know as an up and coming criminal lawyer,\u201d she noted. \u201cI really enjoyed working on an access-to-justice initiative like this, too.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Donich said he is currently experimenting with integrating AI into the chatbot, but is still determining its effectiveness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI am manually programming it now,\u201d he said, \u201cand Camille, Ryan and Elias\u2019s brains have been irreplaceable. 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